Today's guests are Jean Hsu and Cate Huston!
Jean and Cate are extremely experienced engineering leaders and coaches, accomplished authors, and have held leadership roles at companies like DuckDuckGo, Automattic, Medium and more.
They now run a program to help engineers and managers become directly responsible individuals for their careers, to navigate these complicated times.
With Jean and Cate, we talked about exploring what you want from your career, how to be intentional about it, how to use feedback to assess how you're doing, and how AI is changing and not changing the picture.
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🥇 Interview Summary
If you are a 🔒 paid subscriber 🔒 you will find my own summary of the interview below.
It’s the 5-minute takeaways of what we talked about, with timestamps to the relevant video moments, for those who don’t have time to sit through the 1-hour chat.
Here is the agenda for today:
🌪️ Why these times are uniquely challenging
🧭 Figuring out what you actually want
🔁 Feedback, accountability, and the power of coaching
🤖 AI: Identity shifts and finding your way
💡 Minimizing emotional work, maximizing outcomes
⠀Let’s dive in 👇
