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Burnout is a System Issue 🪫 — with Dominika Rogala

Refactoring Podcast • Episode 70

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Today's guest is Dominika Rogala, former VP of Engineering and now advisor for CTOs and tech leaders.

With Dominika, we talked about burnout in engineering teams, on which she did a lot of research. She started with the various dimensions of burnout, which – spoiler alert – is different from simply being tired, and then we looked at the problem from a systemic angle, so how can you improve your team and processes to avoid people from burning out.

Finally, we also talked about AI and how to make it a net positive for your team's resources, without also uncontrollably inflating expectations

Some useful resources mentioned throughout the chat:


🥇 Interview Summary

If you are a 🔒 paid subscriber 🔒 you will find my own summary of the interview below.

It’s the 5-minute, handcrafted takeaways of what we talked about, with timestamps to the relevant video moments, for those who don’t have time to sit through the 1-hour chat.

Here is the agenda for today:

  1. 🔥 The four dimensions of burnout

  2. 🧩 The identity gap

  3. ⚙️ Burnout as a systemic problem

  4. 🤖 AI as both resource and demand

⠀Let’s dive in 👇


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